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Agent of Chaotic Respite's avatar

And the Old Testament stories are equally sketchy, with heavy borrowing from earlier sources (e.g. Hammurabi's Code).

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Anna Trombley's avatar

Isn't there an underlying theme of the rising/dying year god as the green life of the world in it's yearly cycle, born of the earth mother & received back, her son & lover, as antecedent to the Mediterranean & near eastern religions?

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Wendy The Druid πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŒˆ's avatar

Mesopotamian: The Sumerian-Babylonian cults of Tammuz (Dumuzi) and Inanna/Ishtar, where the shepherd-god descends to the underworld for half the year while the earth mourns and withers. You can almost hear the ritual lamentations echoing across the ziggurats.

Phrygian: The mystery religion of Attis and Cybele (the Great Mother), centered in Asia Minor, where frenzied priests would castrate themselves in imitation of Attis’s self-mutilation beneath the sacred pine.

Syrian/Phoenician: The Adonis cults that spread throughout the Mediterranean - particularly vivid in their ritual gardens of quickly-sprouting, quickly-dying plants that mimicked the god’s brief flowering and death.

Egyptian: Osiris, dismembered by Set and reassembled by Isis, becoming lord of the underworld and promise of resurrection. The annual flooding of the Nile was felt as his return, the black fertile mud literally his body.

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Anna Trombley's avatar

Brilliant. Will these essays/assays be a book someday, or is this your doctoral thesis?

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Wendy The Druid πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŒˆ's avatar

If I tap the w tire text it could take a year to pub it all

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Wendy The Druid πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŒˆ's avatar

Not doctoral , no , but close

And yes I’ll eventually condense it down to bound paper

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Jill Barrow's avatar

Rats! I missed pts 1-3, but will happily backtrack to pick those up. I've never made those connections before & am a little forehead-slapping gobsmacked - duh!! on my part & a huge thank you for pointing out what I so obviously missed!! I have a master's degree in French lit so have integrated that knowledge, & as much as I loved the Roman & Greek God/desses mythology, that waaaaaaay bk in the beginning of high school (!!!) & therefore a little tricky to use that information (πŸ™„). This was a wonderful article, beautifully written, articulate & intelligent explanations!

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Wendy The Druid πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŒˆ's avatar

The entire thing is 29 parts currently. If I tap the whole contingency. It’s possibly 59 parts.

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Lynn Horsky's avatar

Wow, what a treatise! I have to save & re-stack for others to cruise this jam-packed mini-course in the ancient history of Western religion. Thanks for laying it out. All the parallels in all religious practice come down to just a few elements. How to find inner peace and love of self and others in a chaotic, unpredictable, unstable environment. More Pop Synthesizing is needed in this culture for the so-called Evangelical Second Coming and Kingdom of Heaven on Earth--they got it wrong. It's not coming down on one Man, it's coming down on everyone to incarnate the Good Gift Life or the Bad and Ugly Troubles so Fix, and Share it All. So Jesus still be on the streets out looking to reel in the followers of The Good old Perennial Wisdom Golden Rule still dragging his cross just so you remember what State cruelty looks like.

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Wendy The Druid πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŒˆ's avatar

Again if I do the whole thing it’s like 59 parts. It’s fairly large.

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Lynn Horsky's avatar

The breadth of the comprehensive list you provided is amazing! It reminded me of reading Joseph Campbell's, "The Hero with a Thousand Faces". The Dead Sea Scrolls also had their impact. "The Gnostic Gospels", by Elaine Pagels, as well as other works by her and "The History of God", by Karen Armstrong have interesting perspectives on the development of Christianity.

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Edward J Belanger's avatar

I have read a number of your sources before but have not put them together in this way… thanks for doing so for us… It reveals things in a more logical and clear manner.

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Wendy The Druid πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŒˆ's avatar

My Tanahk and Talmud both are heavily used and annotated.

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Sandra Greer's avatar

It's interesting that your lists and categories don't contain much Judaic origin.

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Jill Barrow's avatar

I believe the principal discussion focused on New Testament texts rather than the Old (& maybe this aspect of Judaic origin is covered in pts 1-3 which I haven't seen [yet !!]. Dumb algorithms!). Other thoughts, people?

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Wendy The Druid πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŒˆ's avatar

No I’m hitting the whole text , Tanahk. Talmud. Gnostics. Apocryphals, lateral texts. All of it.

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Wendy The Druid πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŒˆ's avatar

Those are coming. The entire thesis is huge.

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Amanda Chapman's avatar

Nowhere is this more obvious than in the crowning rituals of the kings and queens of England, to this day. Ghosts even of Hittite/Assyrian king-making rituals, but with the ruler's consort replacing the temple's female guardian. Including the biblical words of the anthem Zadok the Priest, which surely originate in much older rituals than Judaic.

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