You know what really grinds my gears: This convicted sex trafficker sitting in her federal cage, spewing bullshit denials while victims’ lives remain shattered, and somehow we’re supposed to give a single fuck about her version of events.
My first rape occurred when I was 11, by the Youth Minister. The last one when I was 14 and 4 months, by one of the Deacons in the church we'd switched to when I was 12 and 5 months. I never talked about it until I was 56 years old. I told my sisters when I came out to them. I was crying and I actually fucking APOLOGIZED!!!😨
Let's assume she makes it out, that she persuades Trump to pardon her. I'm not sure what the future will hold for her once she's on the outside again. She's presumably aware that there are plenty of people who have it in for her. Not only her victims and their friends/families, but those people she pandered for and who know that while she continues to live their own ultimate safety from retribution remains in the balance. She won't know which of them poses a threat, which of them she has to hide from. Perhaps cut off all contact from everyone in her past life, and even then not be sure that someone isn't waiting round the corner for her. To become a complete recluse is going to be difficult for a person used to being the life and soul of the pedoparty. Not a great prospect for the rest of her life.
I listened to a couple minutes of Maxwell on an MSNBC podcast last night and had to fast forward to tamp down rage and nausea, but a close second was Todd Blanche. What an obsequious little snot to even do the interview. But what really gets me is why this interview now? The bitch already had her say, was tried and convicted. Of course now because somehow this is back in the news and they have to find a way to get orange turd off the hook but the effort is so fucking transparent. Let that c—t rot it jail in silence. Of course the fat turd should be right in there with her. The frustration makes it hard to remain articulate.
Good analysis. At her trial, reports indicate that the DOJ prosecutor's stated position was that she was a consummate liar who would say anything to get out of trouble. In this instance, as you relate, there were/are several motivations for her to lie to attempt to protect (or at least to avoid piling on to) her and Jeffrey's more powerful clients: 1) stay alive. She has been moved to the least protective environment in the prison system other than work release. Think this reason lacks import/credibility? Look at the first people she has attempted to hose clean with her torrent of lies: DJT and WJC. While I haven't seen evidence of WJC's participation, there is a mountain of evidence against DJT, including sworn affidavits by very young victims claiming he raped them. The evidence supplied, and yet to be supplied by the multitude of victims outweighs by far any attempted exculpation by one of the architects of the whole sordid mess. 2) Bargain for a reduction in sentence (or, far less likely, a pardon) so that she gets out before she would be so old that she would simply transfer to a nursing home. This would have to be paired with a security guarantee for "the involved" that she will stay mum or continue to bathe them with redemptive lies. Otherwise, see #1 above. 3) Build leverage for a post-release speaking/publishing career profiting from her depravity. If she targets anyone, it will be dead people or lesser characters who can be sacrificed in the usual manner.
So far, this whole thing stinks to high heaven with an odor that simply will not dissipate. Don't count on white evangelicals or fundamentalists (IFB, NAR, JW, or Mormons) to change their minds about DJT either, even if the worst comes out about his personal complicity and participation. Look at their own record with child sexual abuse generally, including cover-ups. How many "ministers" have abused children repeatedly, only to stand on the podium after a short hiatus away, and tearfully admit that they have sinned, have been forgiven by jc, and now seek their forgiveness. Amost universally, that "believing community" forgiveness has been given freely and fully to the admitted perp, after which the young sexually abused victims are sidelined, shunned or, frequently, accused of "tempting" that "man of god" to sexual sin (quite a feat for pre-teens) and banished from the congregation (sometimes with their family, unless daddy or uncle billy bob was the perp on the stage). The documented instances of this now systemic behavior and the books, articles, and compilations detailing them are too numerous to list.
We are in a time when several well funded forces are working simultaneously to dismantle the private institutions that built and sustained civic strength in this country. To name just one - Religion, Inc. has reinvigorated the battle with modernism (science and critical thinking as well) fostered initially by the Catholic Church starting in the mid- to late 1800s, and now permeating the evangelical, fundamental, and various minor cult-like remnants (e.g., JWs and Mormons). It is trying, among other things, to restrict the analysis of complex social issues into simplistic black/white solutions and claiming that the "answers" can be gleaned (using solely their interpretation, of course) from a collection of stories, borrowed from earlier societies' myths and legends - stories that were formulated in an attempt to preserve and unite the remnants of a people destroyed by successive military defeats and social dislocation (755 BC - Northern Kingdom; 586 BC - Southern Kingdom) - or similarly imagined (and easily debunked) stories concocted more recently (early to mid-1800s) by a treasure-hunting, currency counterfeiting, sexual deviant and his followers. And that's just one of the anti-social, exclusionary forces working on the destruction of the principle of e pluribus unum.
This is not a time, however, to give up hope or to rest on one's laurels and expect this ship of state to right itself. There are many, many people working hard to preserve what is and has been truly good and principled about the USA as built by past generatiobs and to continue to work on correcting its failures to protect and treasure all of its citizens. But the task is immense and the corrective timeline will be long. We need to energize a renewed commitment to secular and inclusive civic institutions - not the dogmatic, exclusive autocracy MAGA is trying to build.
Sorry to ramble on like this. It is a sign of frustration tempered by a refusal to give up the USA in which I have lived and worked and invested my time and energy for many decades, believing in the worth of our secular, diverse, and immigration supported citizenry. My consolation is that there are (or seem to be) many more people who believe as I do than those who want to destroy this country under cover of a return to some imaginary, purportedly perfect past (the fascist dream). At least, I hope so.
She's using the Donold playbook...She’s banking on the psychological principle that if you repeat a lie often enough and with enough conviction, people start to question their own reality.
She's lying through her teeth about everything but who's to say she doesn't have a 'fuck you' card in case anything happens to her?
Long-time trauma buddy here. Speaking out can take decades even when not encumbered by an NDA, and may never happen at all.
The fear is palpable, and no one can blame a thirteen year-old for keeping secrets when she thinks her families lives are at risk. She was taken from them and maybe she is forty now, but continues to keep her feelings of doubt and guilt. To whatever extent she does not continue to believe her perpetrators' lies, she is bound and tied, prevented from speaking by a web of NDAs. criminality and collusion - a conspiracy.
Speaking out is a big step from victim to survivor. Recovery is a process, and it is life. Survival.
Mine took half a century from her rape to her telling. What next, who knows? Maybe she will write. We are rooting for every one of Epstein's girls. You will be heard and believed. We know you have no personal stake in this beyond your lives.
September 3 is a day set to strike back at victim blaming. Survivors who speak out nationally will lead the way for others. Let there be light.
Bile. Surrounded by bile daily. This was an excellent piece of truth. Thank you for having the temerity to put it into words so succinctly. I'm just hoping even the "1 functioning brain cell left" folks will see right through this as well.
Sharing your rage. I'm guessing the interview transcripts, as unbelievable as they are, will be the first step toward a total pardon by Trump. Meanwhile, the actual evidence is being shredded. For years, our justice system has been a rickety ladder with broken rungs for the victims.
Tell us, Jizz-Lane, that you’re not compromised!
My first rape occurred when I was 11, by the Youth Minister. The last one when I was 14 and 4 months, by one of the Deacons in the church we'd switched to when I was 12 and 5 months. I never talked about it until I was 56 years old. I told my sisters when I came out to them. I was crying and I actually fucking APOLOGIZED!!!😨
I don't mean to hijack the conversation. I just meant that I understand why victims don't come forward 😞😞😞
I hated to have to heart this, but at the same time I commend you for your strength, Steve
If I ever run into this sick pedo bitch it’s absolutely over for her just saying
Let's assume she makes it out, that she persuades Trump to pardon her. I'm not sure what the future will hold for her once she's on the outside again. She's presumably aware that there are plenty of people who have it in for her. Not only her victims and their friends/families, but those people she pandered for and who know that while she continues to live their own ultimate safety from retribution remains in the balance. She won't know which of them poses a threat, which of them she has to hide from. Perhaps cut off all contact from everyone in her past life, and even then not be sure that someone isn't waiting round the corner for her. To become a complete recluse is going to be difficult for a person used to being the life and soul of the pedoparty. Not a great prospect for the rest of her life.
I listened to a couple minutes of Maxwell on an MSNBC podcast last night and had to fast forward to tamp down rage and nausea, but a close second was Todd Blanche. What an obsequious little snot to even do the interview. But what really gets me is why this interview now? The bitch already had her say, was tried and convicted. Of course now because somehow this is back in the news and they have to find a way to get orange turd off the hook but the effort is so fucking transparent. Let that c—t rot it jail in silence. Of course the fat turd should be right in there with her. The frustration makes it hard to remain articulate.
Good analysis. At her trial, reports indicate that the DOJ prosecutor's stated position was that she was a consummate liar who would say anything to get out of trouble. In this instance, as you relate, there were/are several motivations for her to lie to attempt to protect (or at least to avoid piling on to) her and Jeffrey's more powerful clients: 1) stay alive. She has been moved to the least protective environment in the prison system other than work release. Think this reason lacks import/credibility? Look at the first people she has attempted to hose clean with her torrent of lies: DJT and WJC. While I haven't seen evidence of WJC's participation, there is a mountain of evidence against DJT, including sworn affidavits by very young victims claiming he raped them. The evidence supplied, and yet to be supplied by the multitude of victims outweighs by far any attempted exculpation by one of the architects of the whole sordid mess. 2) Bargain for a reduction in sentence (or, far less likely, a pardon) so that she gets out before she would be so old that she would simply transfer to a nursing home. This would have to be paired with a security guarantee for "the involved" that she will stay mum or continue to bathe them with redemptive lies. Otherwise, see #1 above. 3) Build leverage for a post-release speaking/publishing career profiting from her depravity. If she targets anyone, it will be dead people or lesser characters who can be sacrificed in the usual manner.
So far, this whole thing stinks to high heaven with an odor that simply will not dissipate. Don't count on white evangelicals or fundamentalists (IFB, NAR, JW, or Mormons) to change their minds about DJT either, even if the worst comes out about his personal complicity and participation. Look at their own record with child sexual abuse generally, including cover-ups. How many "ministers" have abused children repeatedly, only to stand on the podium after a short hiatus away, and tearfully admit that they have sinned, have been forgiven by jc, and now seek their forgiveness. Amost universally, that "believing community" forgiveness has been given freely and fully to the admitted perp, after which the young sexually abused victims are sidelined, shunned or, frequently, accused of "tempting" that "man of god" to sexual sin (quite a feat for pre-teens) and banished from the congregation (sometimes with their family, unless daddy or uncle billy bob was the perp on the stage). The documented instances of this now systemic behavior and the books, articles, and compilations detailing them are too numerous to list.
We are in a time when several well funded forces are working simultaneously to dismantle the private institutions that built and sustained civic strength in this country. To name just one - Religion, Inc. has reinvigorated the battle with modernism (science and critical thinking as well) fostered initially by the Catholic Church starting in the mid- to late 1800s, and now permeating the evangelical, fundamental, and various minor cult-like remnants (e.g., JWs and Mormons). It is trying, among other things, to restrict the analysis of complex social issues into simplistic black/white solutions and claiming that the "answers" can be gleaned (using solely their interpretation, of course) from a collection of stories, borrowed from earlier societies' myths and legends - stories that were formulated in an attempt to preserve and unite the remnants of a people destroyed by successive military defeats and social dislocation (755 BC - Northern Kingdom; 586 BC - Southern Kingdom) - or similarly imagined (and easily debunked) stories concocted more recently (early to mid-1800s) by a treasure-hunting, currency counterfeiting, sexual deviant and his followers. And that's just one of the anti-social, exclusionary forces working on the destruction of the principle of e pluribus unum.
This is not a time, however, to give up hope or to rest on one's laurels and expect this ship of state to right itself. There are many, many people working hard to preserve what is and has been truly good and principled about the USA as built by past generatiobs and to continue to work on correcting its failures to protect and treasure all of its citizens. But the task is immense and the corrective timeline will be long. We need to energize a renewed commitment to secular and inclusive civic institutions - not the dogmatic, exclusive autocracy MAGA is trying to build.
Sorry to ramble on like this. It is a sign of frustration tempered by a refusal to give up the USA in which I have lived and worked and invested my time and energy for many decades, believing in the worth of our secular, diverse, and immigration supported citizenry. My consolation is that there are (or seem to be) many more people who believe as I do than those who want to destroy this country under cover of a return to some imaginary, purportedly perfect past (the fascist dream). At least, I hope so.
Resist. React. Repeat.
She's using the Donold playbook...She’s banking on the psychological principle that if you repeat a lie often enough and with enough conviction, people start to question their own reality.
She's lying through her teeth about everything but who's to say she doesn't have a 'fuck you' card in case anything happens to her?
Long-time trauma buddy here. Speaking out can take decades even when not encumbered by an NDA, and may never happen at all.
The fear is palpable, and no one can blame a thirteen year-old for keeping secrets when she thinks her families lives are at risk. She was taken from them and maybe she is forty now, but continues to keep her feelings of doubt and guilt. To whatever extent she does not continue to believe her perpetrators' lies, she is bound and tied, prevented from speaking by a web of NDAs. criminality and collusion - a conspiracy.
Speaking out is a big step from victim to survivor. Recovery is a process, and it is life. Survival.
Mine took half a century from her rape to her telling. What next, who knows? Maybe she will write. We are rooting for every one of Epstein's girls. You will be heard and believed. We know you have no personal stake in this beyond your lives.
September 3 is a day set to strike back at victim blaming. Survivors who speak out nationally will lead the way for others. Let there be light.
Bile. Surrounded by bile daily. This was an excellent piece of truth. Thank you for having the temerity to put it into words so succinctly. I'm just hoping even the "1 functioning brain cell left" folks will see right through this as well.
You know, the C-word was meant to be used for this waste of skin.
Sharing your rage. I'm guessing the interview transcripts, as unbelievable as they are, will be the first step toward a total pardon by Trump. Meanwhile, the actual evidence is being shredded. For years, our justice system has been a rickety ladder with broken rungs for the victims.